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March 14, 1978 Session
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
00:00
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Introduction
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
00:40
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Baldanzi Attempt to Oust Southern Regional Director Roy Lawrence in 1948 : Tried to enlist Stetin's support and to get Stetin to move to North Carolina, but Rieve opposed the plan and Stetin deferred to Rieve's judgment since Rieve was the top man.
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
03:15
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August, 1948, Stetin Took Over Pennsylvania : This to make room for Charles Serraino, as New Jersey Director. Continued handling the organizing of New Jersey as well as taking over the administration and organization of Pennsylvania.
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
04:15
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Operation Dixie : With the schism within TWUA, the organizing drive was not as wholehearted as in past organizing efforts.
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
06:15
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Problems Were Created by Baldanzi's Relationships with Various Employers in Paterson Area : Militant in some areas but conservative in others.
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
06:50
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Baldanzi's Involvement in Affairs of Passaic Joint Board, 1948 : Friction was developing over this; Stetin was director and Serraino was manager. This involvement ultimately led to the incident of the southern regional directorship, and to Serraino and Stetin taking over New Jersey and Pennsylvania respectively.
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
08:30
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Baldanzi's Involvement in Affairs of TWUA in General : Became obvious to many people that Baldanzi was injecting himself too much into the Union's internal affairs in various areas and bypassing Regional Directors. He was undermining Rieve's position and building a base of support in Passaic instead of helping make a breakthrough in the South.
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
10:10
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Baldanzi's Unethical Practices Caused Stetin to Turn Away from Him : Baldanzi asked for investigation of a TWUA official (Joe Knapik); then reversed himself when the investigation was mounted. Stetin became suspicious and began to investigate. Stetin feels this led to his transfer from New Jersey. Baldanzi was encouraging employers to do business with his brothers.
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
14:35
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Anecdote Concerning Stetin and Favoritism
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
15:55
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TWUA and Business Favoritism : On Stetin's instigation Executive Council informs employers it does not encourage their advertising in Union newspapers. TWUA adopted an Ethical Practices Code long before the AFL-CIO.
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
17:00
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Stetin's Personal Decision on Rieve/Baldanzi Issue : Baldanzi's interference in the proper administration of TWUA, the intrigue it caused, and Stetin's personal morals and ethics all played roles in his decision to support Rieve. Stetin did not discuss with other Union members his opinion of Baldanzi's ethics.
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
19:50
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Baldanzi's Public Statements and His Private Actions Were Not Always Synonymous
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
20:25
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Basic Cause of the Split in the Union : Personal political ambition was a factor and Baldanzi was able to motivate many young intellectuals within the Union, who saw him as a crusader, and saw Rieve as crusty and crude.
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
21:20
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Anecdote Concerning a Delegate Mimicking Rieve at a Meeting
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Tape/Side
5/1
Time
21:45
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Anecdote Concerning Rieve, Stetin, and the Americans for Democratic Action (ADA), and Rieve's Use of Psychology : Both Stetin and Rieve were active in ADA. Rieve supported Dwight Eisenhower as Democratic presidential candidate; and Stetin, in Philadelphia, was opposing Ike as Democratic presidential candidate. Rieve used the incident as an excuse to invite Stetin into New York and to discuss a wide variety of issues informally and leisurely.
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Tape/Side
5/2
Time
00:00
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Introduction
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Tape/Side
5/2
Time
00:30
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More on the Basic Cause of the Split : No philosophical or ideological issues separated the two sides. Baldanzi wanted to be more influential within the Union; and, though he did not want to take Rieve's job, he did not like Rieve making all the decisions. The resulting politics interfered greatly with the main job of the Union - organizing the unorganized.
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Tape/Side
5/2
Time
03:35
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Beginnings of the Split - Prior to 1948 : Baldanzi opposed a health insurance plan for New Bedford, which thwarted the plan and kept this type of plan out of the TWUA for a decade. [Apparently Stetin is here referring to Baldanzi's opposition to attempts to set up a jointly-sponsored TWUA-employer group health plan, because the 1943 New Bedford contract (as well as many other TWUA contracts at the time) did provide health insurance. It was not until the late 1950s, however, that the TWUA Welfare Fund was created.] Baldanzi would discuss with Stetin minor criticisms of Rieve.
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Tape/Side
5/2
Time
06:40
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The Fight Could Have Been Avoided : Rieve was pressured by some of the people in New England who were themselves very ambitious, particularly Mariano Bishop.
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Tape/Side
5/2
Time
08:35
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Why Bishop Was Chosen to Run Against Baldanzi in 1950 : He represented many powerful groups in New England; he had begun to spend more time in the South as Cotton-Rayon Director. Stetin questioned Bishop's right to move up.
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Tape/Side
5/2
Time
09:40
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Herb Payne Was Stetin's Choice to Run Against Baldanzi : Payne, it turns out, was too ill. Example of Payne's abilities and style.
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Tape/Side
5/2
Time
11:10
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Baldanzi Second Guessed the Settlements within the Synthetic Fibers Industry : Caused much friction within the organization.
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Tape/Side
5/2
Time
12:05
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More on the Basic Cause of the Split : During Rieve's involvement with the WLB, authority was not given over to Baldanzi. Rieve continued to make all policy decisions with Payne acting as Rieve's chief lieutenant.
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Tape/Side
5/2
Time
13:20
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Baldanzi and Operation Dixie : Baldanzi did select some people for the southern drive based on their allegiance.
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Tape/Side
5/2
Time
14:25
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Rieve's 1949 Experiment with Special Assistants : Bishop's appointment in charge of several southern states was an obvious political move.
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Tape/Side
5/2
Time
16:30
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Baldanzi's Oratorical Abilities : Union's rank and file liked him - he sounded like a crusader and they were very impressed with it. This oratory did not carry over into the Executive Council meetings.
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Tape/Side
5/2
Time
18:35
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TWUA Leaders Who Sided with Baldanzi Genuinely Believed Rieve Was Being Unfair in Attempting to Push Him Out
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Tape/Side
5/2
Time
19:00
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Isadore Katz : He wanted to be more than just the general counsel to TWUA; he wanted to have his own law firm; and Rieve would have none of it. By 1952, Katz felt there was an opportunity with Baldanzi for more power and more money.
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Tape/Side
5/2
Time
20:45
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Other Issues That Contributed to the Split : The issues of geography and democracy were good for Baldanzi but bad for the Union.
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Tape/Side
5/2
Time
22:00
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Baldanzi Planted Democracy of the Union as an Issue : Stetin thinks the Union was democratic.
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Tape/Side
5/2
Time
22:45
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Who Lined Up with Whom : Personalities motivated many people; it was not sociological, philosophical, ideological issues that caused people to line up behind either Rieve or Baldanzi. Some people did choose Baldanzi because they saw Rieve as a dictator.
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Tape/Side
5/2
Time
24:10
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The Bulk of the Dyers Backed Baldanzi
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Tape/Side
5/2
Time
24:40
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1950 Convention and the Amendments to the Constitution : They were not genuine proposals and none passed; they were purely political.
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
00:00
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Introduction
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
00:35
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1950 Convention and the Amendments to the Constitution (Continued) : One of Baldanzi's amendments would have given members the right to disapprove regional directors appointed by the national office. This presented an appearance of democracy but in reality it was a way to get rid of Roy Lawrence. Stetin feels this would have hindered the effort to organize the unorganized, because organizing is not a democratic process.
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
03:30
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Local 6, Lewistown, Pennsylvania, TWUA'S Maverick Local : A big synthetic local which supported Baldanzi.
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
04:25
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Stetin Does Not See Geographic Jealousy or the 1949 Textile Economic Slowdown as Factors in the Fight
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
06:15
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Failure to Defeat Baldanzi at the 1950 Convention : Rieve group thought, before the convention, that they would win; but they misjudged the attitude of the union members and underestimated the difficulty of defeating an incumbent. Rieve did not view this as a rebuke by the membership.
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
08:00
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Harold Daoust : A hard-working, sincere, competent person who was devoted to the Union and to Bishop.
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
09:35
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In Retrospect, Stetin Views June, 1951, Purge of Staff Members and Sam Baron's Dismissal as Unfortunate and Unnecessary
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
10:40
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After the 1950 Convention Baldanzi and His Supporters Felt They Had to Take the Offensive; the Convention Had Given Them a Feeling of Power and Influence
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
12:10
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Sam Baron Not Necessarily a Baldanzi Man from the Start
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
13:15
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Stetin Had Distinct Feeling That the Baldanzi Situation Would Come to a Head Again at the 1952 Convention
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
14:00
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Post-Convention Structure Committee of the Executive Council
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
15:50
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1952 Convention : Baldanzi supporters felt they had to make the run for the presidency, that the situation had to come to a head; one or the other had to be elected undisputed leader of the Union. Baldanzi people raised issue of financial malfeasance, but they were just grasping at straws, since Pollock was “as honest as they come.” Creation of new locals at Fall River in preparation for the convention was unnecessary and probably played into Baldanzi's hands by giving him another issue.
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
19:55
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Rieve Saw Bishop as His Successor after the 1952 Convention
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
21:05
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Rieve's Suggestion of an Executive Committee of the Executive Council, Made at the First Meeting after 1952 Convention : It was a way of involving the Executive Council in policy making, since between 1948 and 1952 Baldanzi had contended that the department heads were running the Union and not the Executive Council.
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
23:25
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Ushers at the 1952 Convention and their “Reward”
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
24:20
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The Secession Movement : Baldanzi convinced his supporters that they could change the structure of the UTW.
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
25:20
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Once Baldanzi Reached the Leadership Level of UTW, He Did Not Change That Union Very Much
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
26:05
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Some of the Local Unions Who Were Part of the Secession Movement Later Returned to TWUA
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Tape/Side
6/1
Time
26:45
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Purge of Baldanzi Supporters after the 1952 Convention Was a Mistake : People like Lew Conn and Charlie Serraino could have remained comfortably within TWUA.
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
00:00
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Introduction
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
00:35
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The Secession Movement in Stetin's Area : Not too many people left TWUA. Some areas needed more attention in order to keep people from leaving, specifically Wilkes-Barre, Paterson-Passaic, and Philadelphia.
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
01:40
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Anecdote Concerning the Philadelphia Joint Board and Secession : Rieve decided an administrator should be appointed to manage the affairs of the Joint Board. It was determined by Stetin and Ralph Cline, the administrator, that the locks on the doors of the Joint Board would have to be changed, but at the last moment Stetin could not go through with it. Joe Hueter was debating with Rieve supporters on the merits of seceding to UTW. Rieve people placed a newspaper ad inviting Philadelphia textile workers to listen to Baldanzi speak on radio about the UTW. Hueter assumed the ad had been placed by Baldanzi people, but the speech turned out to be an attack on the UTW which Baldanzi had made seven years earlier. There was a real danger of the entire Philadelphia Joint Board seceding from TWUA.
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
06:20
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Charlie Hughes Supported Baldanzi Because He Did Not Like Jack Rubenstein
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
07:35
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Jack Rubenstein's Resignation as Carpet Director
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
08:30
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Baldanzi Supporters Could Have Remained in TWUA and Returned to the Executive Council
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
09:10
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A Grudge Held by John L. Lewis Against Rieve and the TWUA Prompted the United Mine Workers' Loan to the UTW During the Secession Movement
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
10:10
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1951 Southern Strike : Neither side wanted to strike, but at the same time neither side wanted to appear soft or non-militant.
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
12:15
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The South and Unionism : The situation in the South could possibly have had a different outcome if there had been a strike in the period just prior to the Second World War - there was more money and more resources available at that time, as well as more spirit.
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
13:30
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TWOC Spent Only 18 Months Organizing and Most of That Organizing Occurred in the North : A serious mistake to constitutionalize and thereby politicize the Union so soon.
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
14:30
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Although There Was No Solid Basis for a Successful Strike in the South in 1951, TWUA Thought They Had the Membership Behind Them
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
15:20
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Aftermath of the 1951 Southern Strike : Stetin does not agree with those who claim the strike was lost because Danville had too much public relations and community action and not enough anti-bossism; a combination of both is needed for successful unionism. The Union lost the strike; no blame should have been placed on one side or the other. Politics was not a factor in the loss of the strike, it was simply an ineffective strike; the people just did not support the Union. Rieve's claim that Josephine McLaughlin and her “modern unionism” in Danville was a cause for losing the strike was erroneous because she was as anti-boss as anyone in the labor movement.
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
21:10
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Danville Was the Union's Showcase in the South : TWUA had its own building and there was much community involvement - a good example of modern unionism.
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
22:55
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Rieve Made an Issue Out of “Modern Unionism” as a Way of Finding Fault : This was a mistake. The entire TWUA lost the strike, not the local unions or the joint board.
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
24:00
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More on Danville, the Largest Single Textile Unit in the World : Danville was special and was a major inroad into the South, thus making the defeat there more significant.
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Tape/Side
6/2
Time
26:25
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Stetin Favored Giving More Attention to the South, and Pouring More Money into the Danville Strike : The leadership, however, determined that the situation was lost. Money was not a factor in the defeat.
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Tape/Side
7/1
Time
00:00
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Introduction
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Tape/Side
7/1
Time
00:35
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Militancy of the Black Workers in Danville During the 1951 Southern Strike : Somewhat of a surprise because the textile industry and hence the Union did not have many blacks.
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Tape/Side
7/1
Time
01:15
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Lack of Support from Other CIO Unions During the Strike May Have Been Because of the Friction within TWUA
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Tape/Side
7/1
Time
02:40
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Short-Term and Long-Term Effects of the 1951 Southern Strike on TWUA : The strike itself, plus the secession of Danville to the UTW, had a demoralizing effect on TWUA in the South. The monetary cost of the strike led to less militancy and more caution about future actions in the South. Losing the checkoff as a result of secession also was detrimental.
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Tape/Side
7/1
Time
06:35
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More on the Decline of TWUA : In addition to the “four horsemen,” the Taft-Hartley Act, the internal fight, and the Southern strike all contributed to the decline.
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Tape/Side
7/1
Time
09:05
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Textile Industry Experienced First What Other Unions Are Experiencing Now : Many labor leaders refuse to admit that their power and strength is not as great as it is portrayed in the media. This situation a contributing factor in Stetin recommending merger with the ACW.
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Tape/Side
7/1
Time
10:35
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Foresight Concerning the Recession in the Early 1950s : Sol Barkin urged diversification; there were discussions with employers, but TWUA was limited in what it could do.
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Tape/Side
7/1
Time
12:25
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TWUA Leadership's View of the Situation During the Mid-1950s Decline : Made some efforts to stem the decline, like pushing for Area Redevelopment legislation; but by and large realized that “The only time working people are fully employed at their machines is when other workers are employed at machine guns.”
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Tape/Side
7/1
Time
16:25
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Imports Became a Major Issue with the Union in the Early 1950s : Migration, mergers, and imports were all problems which caused concern. Rieve proposed an International Fair Labor Standards Act, but there was no support from the other CIO unions. Even the International Ladies' Garment Workers (ILG) and the ACW ridiculed TWUA as “protectionists.”
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Tape/Side
7/1
Time
18:30
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Cooperative Employers Was the Biggest Factor Contributing to NLRB Election Victories by TWUA in the 1950s
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Tape/Side
7/1
Time
20:45
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Loss of the CIO Spirit : Caused by merger with the AFL. CIO unions became “AFLized.” Everyone from the leadership down to the shop steward came to identify more with the foremen and the executives than with the workers.
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Tape/Side
7/1
Time
24:30
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Stetin Does Not Agree That TWUA Became More Conservative : Points to the Union's progressive stand on civil rights at 1956 and 1960 conventions as evidence.
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Tape/Side
7/2
Time
00:00
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Introduction
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Tape/Side
7/2
Time
00:30
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Rieve Retired in 1956 for Reasons of Health
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Tape/Side
7/2
Time
01:30
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Emil Rieve : Very able organizer and tactician. As Hosiery Federation president, he made many great contributions; in his role with the CIO he was well respected by both CIO leaders and government leaders. He had a way of getting the best out of people.
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Tape/Side
7/2
Time
03:25
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Statistics on the Textile Movement from 1933 - Dyers and Hosiery Specifically : Claims Dyers and Hosiery had more members at the time of founding of TWOC than others admit to.
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Tape/Side
7/2
Time
04:50
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The Big Mistake, for Which Rieve Must Share Some Blame, Was That TWOC Ceased to Exist Too Soon
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Tape/Side
7/2
Time
05:15
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Difference in TWUA under Rieve and Pollock : Pollock more conservative than Rieve in financial matters.
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Tape/Side
7/2
Time
06:35
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Rieve's Statement at the 1964 Convention Concerning Pollock; That Speech a Terrible Mistake
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Tape/Side
7/2
Time
07:15
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More Usage of Governmental Agencies under Pollock Than under Rieve Due to the Fact That Kennedy Was President : Kennedy was sympathetic to textiles having come from a textile background; and TWUA had always helped his campaigns.
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Tape/Side
7/2
Time
11:35
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Pollock as President of TWUA : Pollock was a very honest, committed, dedicated trade union leader. With the Union in a decline at the time he took over, it was a very difficult period for him. As a result of Pollock's involvement of TWUA in the struggle with J.P. Stevens in the 1960s, ultimately a new period in the American labor movement has been brought about.
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Tape/Side
7/2
Time
12:55
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Early Relationship of Rieve and Pollock : They had many arguments over who was to make decisions on how the money was to be spent.
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Tape/Side
7/2
Time
13:50
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Opposition to Pollock Becoming Executive Vice President after Bishop's Death : There was a strong feeling that John Chupka was much closer to the membership and that this made him the logical choice. Rieve offered Chupka the position, but Chupka refused as he felt it was more of an anti-Pollock move than a pro-Chupka move. Other possibilities concerning the position were discussed at great length. Rieve did not assume a leadership role. Stetin's scheme for four vice presidents did not draw much support.
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Tape/Side
7/2
Time
21:10
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Rieve Did Not Want Pollock to Become President of TWUA
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Tape/Side
7/2
Time
23:10
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Resolution of the 1956 Convention Condemning White Citizens Councils : Southerners spoke against the resolution because they believed that position would hurt TWUA in the South. Although some members walked out of the convention, they did not walk out of TWUA. There were no membership losses over this issue.
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Tape/Side
7/2
Time
26:40
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Burlington Drive : Undertaken largely for the purposes of agitation and education; it was not given the same kind of attention as that given to J.P. Stevens.
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Tape/Side
8/1
Time
00:00
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Introduction
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Tape/Side
8/1
Time
00:35
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Burlington Drive (Continued) : A decision of the leadership. Though the drive was begun while textiles were still in a recession, organizing was an ongoing process.
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Tape/Side
8/1
Time
01:45
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Southern Agitational Wage Drives : System used in 1930s by Dyers. Useful not only for getting wage increases but also for creating more interest among the unorganized workers.
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Tape/Side
8/1
Time
04:40
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Executive Council-Endorsed Executive Committee - 1956
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Tape/Side
8/1
Time
06:25
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Minority Opinion of the 1956 Convention Finance Committee Concerning Dues Increases
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Tape/Side
8/1
Time
07:45
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Strike Defense Fund Created in 1960 : Came about largely because of the Harriett-Henderson strike.
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Tape/Side
8/1
Time
08:35
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1960 Congressional Investigation of the NLRB Was Supported Mostly by TWUA
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Tape/Side
8/1
Time
09:55
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TWUA, UTW, and the No-Raid Agreement
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Tape/Side
8/1
Time
11:55
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Racketeering in the UTW Was a Major Factor Why TWUA Did Not Push for Merger in the Mid-1950s
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Tape/Side
8/1
Time
12:40
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George Meany Could Have Played a Major Role in a TWUA/UTW Merger But Did Not : Part of the AFL philosophy of not forcing affiliates to act.
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Tape/Side
8/1
Time
14:05
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UTW May Have Accepted Baldanzi as Its President in Order to Help Make a Breakthrough in the South
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Tape/Side
8/1
Time
15:00
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Even If TWUA and UTW Had Merged, It Is Unlikely That Baldanzi Could Ever Have Returned to the TWUA in a Leadership Position : Baldanzi went through the motions of working for merger, but probably never would have permitted it.
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